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Would a swastika avatar be accepted?
Replies: 41Last Post Nov. 2, 2008 12:30pm by Nikki
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Nikki


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Um, bodies were burned...

Anyway, swastikas are banned. As Carie said, there was a huge debate over this a couple of years ago, and David decided to ban them. It's his site, and his rules stick.

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Quote: from kidd rune at 2:33 pm on Oct. 31, 2008


because regardless of its other origins the swastika has come to represent, especially in the mindset of the west a particularly heinous event in the history of mankind. because for many people the swastika is forever marred by the history of the genocide that happened in germany, and LW, in the spirit of support, chooses not to honor something that has been used for such nefarious means

 
the topics no longer exist in large part, because of the bug, but know that it was serious debate, and there was at least one moderator who resigned over it.


No freedom of speech?

What about the Jewish star - that is allowed to be shown. So is the Cross of Christianity, BOTH of which have advocated killing at one time or another.

The thing is - many people don't believe in the mass murder of 6million people, therefore their support of the symbol wouldn't be advocating "Genocide" if that's ALL you think it stood for.


The jewish star and cross of christianity are religious symbols used throughout the western world.
They are also not used to represent political parties encouraging mass murder in the common era.

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The jewish star and cross of christianity are religious symbols used throughout the western world.
They are also not used to represent political parties encouraging mass murder in the common era.

Are you implying that National Socialism was centered around genocide and that religion (Judaism and Christianity) have NEVER been the reasoning behind a mass murder?


Um, bodies were burned...
STILL not proof of 6million bodies. Have you HEARD the claims by "witnesses" of the mass burning? Their stories are flawed as real flesh burning has NOTHING to do with how they describe it. They even claim that women burn easier than men and were used as fuel...

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You can go on as long as you want - the Swastika will NOT be allowed in avatars here.

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You can go on as long as you want - the Swastika will NOT be allowed in avatars here.
I'm still asking for a reason - so far the "reasons" can be applied for many avatars that are used. I think I've seen Bolshevik avatars - what about THEIR genocides? Only dead Jews count?

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The reason is that David decided he didn't want them being used as avatars. That's the reason.

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So why is this avatar allowed?



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Quote: from Fountain of Salmacis at 3:19 pm on Nov. 1, 2008

So why is this avatar allowed?


Because it's not supporting them?

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Because it's not supporting them?
But it is against an ideology. You know, Nazism is NOT JUST ANTI-SEMITISM.

Therefore, an anti-National Socialist avatar is NO BETTER than a Swastika - hell, I think it's worse.

The Swastika DOES NOT stand for anti-Judaism or anything like that - an anti-Swastika sign DOES.

What if I say I'm offended by that image?

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I'm not even supportive of this policy. Take it up with admin. if you want to be pedantic.

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Quote: from Nikki at 10:47 am on Nov. 2, 2008

I'm not even supportive of this policy. Take it up with admin. if you want to be pedantic.
Alright, but I believe you said that someone LEFT LiveWire because of that debate... Why?

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It was a few years ago now so I'm a bit hazy on the details.

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