LiveWire Network Peer Answers Peer Support Teen Forums Tech Forums College Forums 310 users online 192114 members 492 active today Advertise Here Sign In
TeenCollegeTechPhotos | Quizzes | LiveSecret | Dictionary | News | FAQ
You have 1 new message.
Emergency Help
Until you sign up you can't do much. Yes, it's free.

Sign Up Now
Membername:
Password:
Already have an account?
Invite Friends
Active Members
Groups
Contests
Moderators
4 online / 15 MPM
Fresh Topics
  LiveWire / Teen Forums / Race, Ethnicity & Nationality / Viewing Topic

Indigenous rights
Replies: 31Last Post Nov. 8, 2008 12:31pm by kidd rune
Welcome to LiveWire!
We're Stronger Together.
Join the Community
Pages: 1 2 3  Next » Email Print Favorite
( kidd rune )


Wealthy Hobo

Sustainer
Reply
PDF warning:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/2j9zdy


There are several formulations in this document that struck me as interesting. But the plainest and most applicable to my use is Article 8


1. Indigenous peoples and individuals have the right not to be subjected to forced assimilation or destruction of their culture.

2. States shall provide effective mechanisms for prevention of, and redress
for:

(a) Any action which has the aim or effect of depriving them of their
integrity as distinct peoples, or of their cultural values or ethnic identities;

(b) Any action which has the aim or effect of dispossessing them of their
lands, territories or resources;

(c) Any form of forced population transfer which has the aim or effect of
violating or undermining any of their rights;

(d) Any form of forced assimilation or integration;

(e) Any form of propaganda designed to promote or incite racial or ethnic
discrimination directed against them


Here's some quotes to get you thinking:


Whites will be an ethnic minority in Britain by the end of the century... It would be the first time in history that a major indigenous population has voluntarily become a minority, rather than through war, famine or disease.
Anthony Browne, Sunday September 3, 2000 The Guardian, UK


Today, largely because of immigration, there is no majority race in Hawaii or Houston or New York City... In a little more than 50 years there will be no majority race in the United States."
President Clinton, Portland State University Commencement, June 13, 1998

The above statement by President Clinton was greeted by rapturous applause. Many people accept that we are living in a 'multi-cultural' society and that all races will soon live together and co-exist peacefully. But how many people know the reality of world demographic trends, and have thought about what this really means?

On average a white woman now bears only about 1.4 children along her fertile span. To preserve a population, the rate should be around 2.1 (to allow for people that do not have any children). Thus the white population is actually declining and if the trend continues, will actually die some time in the near future.

The overall population of the world, however, is growing at an astounding rate and is currently doubling every 35 years. When I was young the world population was said to be 4 billion. Now it is recognized to be around 6 billion, and is growing so fast that it is easily beating the UN projections every time.

According to the United Nations Long-Range World Population Projections, people of European descent, who not so long ago formed around 35% of the world's population, now constitute about 8%. This percentage is projected to fall to about 2% some time this century. All of this actually makes a mockery of the fad in the last few decades of middle-class white couples choosing not to have children for the sake of the over-populated Earth.

The figures speak for themselves. White populations are not even producing enough children to keep their numbers stable - whilst at the same time, all of the other races are growing at rates that will soon eclipse the whites - even in our 'own' countries. Very soon, unless something changes, the white peoples of the world will be extinct - that is a fact.

Some people shriek with horror when they hear arguments such as these and call them 'White Supremacy'. This makes it sound as if we want to conquer the other races and rule the world. Well, look at the figures again and you will see that it is more a question of 'White Survival' than 'White Supremacy'. It is nothing to do with hating other races or hurting or killing people because their skin is the wrong color. When people talk about saving the Tiger from extinction, is this 'hatred' against lions?




-------
"If you worship your enemy, you are defeated.
If you adopt your enemy's religion you are enslaved.
If you breed with your enemy you are destroyed."
-Polydoros


5:28 pm on Nov. 6, 2008 | Joined Nov. 2007 | 135 Days Active
Join to learn more about kidd rune Florida, United States | Straight Male | 3843 Posts | 4708 Points
HeartofJuyoMk2


Connoisseur
Reply
um so?

-------
Scandalousx3- I love you baby!

5:29 pm on Nov. 6, 2008 | Joined Feb. 2008 | 195 Days Active
Join to learn more about HeartofJuyoMk2 New York, United States | Straight Male | 3837 Posts | 6315 Points
stl man


Wealthy Hobo
Reply
tell me why you think white people are greater than any race on the planet? you can't choose what race you are born as. so just give it up.

-------
if you couldn't tell I'm from the STL!!!

5:29 pm on Nov. 6, 2008 | Joined Sep. 2008 | 83 Days Active
Join to learn more about stl man District Of Columbia, United States | Straight Male | 3354 Posts | 4436 Points
( kidd rune )


Wealthy Hobo

Sustainer
Reply

tell me why you think white people are greater than any race on the planet?
I don't think they are.


you can't choose what race you are born as. so just give it up.
Well, soon - if nothing gets done - you will almost be garunteed to be born as a race other than White.

-------
"If you worship your enemy, you are defeated.
If you adopt your enemy's religion you are enslaved.
If you breed with your enemy you are destroyed."
-Polydoros

5:31 pm on Nov. 6, 2008 | Joined Nov. 2007 | 135 Days Active
Join to learn more about kidd rune Florida, United States | Straight Male | 3843 Posts | 4708 Points
HeartofJuyoMk2


Connoisseur
Reply
Quote: from kidd rune at 8:31 pm on Nov. 6, 2008


tell me why you think white people are greater than any race on the planet?
I don't think they are.


you can't choose what race you are born as. so just give it up.
Well, soon - if nothing gets done - you will almost be garunteed to be born as a race other than White.

ok, so?

-------
Scandalousx3- I love you baby!

5:31 pm on Nov. 6, 2008 | Joined Feb. 2008 | 195 Days Active
Join to learn more about HeartofJuyoMk2 New York, United States | Straight Male | 3837 Posts | 6315 Points
( kidd rune )


Wealthy Hobo

Sustainer
Reply
Oh, by the way, my friend Ingvar sent me this as an email.

-------
"If you worship your enemy, you are defeated.
If you adopt your enemy's religion you are enslaved.
If you breed with your enemy you are destroyed."
-Polydoros

5:32 pm on Nov. 6, 2008 | Joined Nov. 2007 | 135 Days Active
Join to learn more about kidd rune Florida, United States | Straight Male | 3843 Posts | 4708 Points
stl man


Wealthy Hobo
Reply
Quote: from kidd rune at 8:31 pm on Nov. 6, 2008


tell me why you think white people are greater than any race on the planet?
Well, soon - if nothing gets done - you will almost be garunteed to be born as a race other than White.

why does it matter what race you are born as? if you were born as a black or asian person you wouldn't know any better. so stop it. it's a lost cause

-------
if you couldn't tell I'm from the STL!!!

5:33 pm on Nov. 6, 2008 | Joined Sep. 2008 | 83 Days Active
Join to learn more about stl man District Of Columbia, United States | Straight Male | 3354 Posts | 4436 Points
( kidd rune )


Wealthy Hobo

Sustainer
Reply

ok, so?

Indigenous peoples and individuals have the right not to be subjected to forced assimilation or destruction of their culture.
and

Any action which has the aim or effect of depriving them of their
integrity as distinct peoples, or of their cultural values or ethnic identities;

I, for one, believe all races and cultures have the right to exist. I think that none should die out.

I don't advocate genocide, even if it doesn't involve literal "shoot you in the face" murder.

-------
"If you worship your enemy, you are defeated.
If you adopt your enemy's religion you are enslaved.
If you breed with your enemy you are destroyed."
-Polydoros


5:33 pm on Nov. 6, 2008 | Joined Nov. 2007 | 135 Days Active
Join to learn more about kidd rune Florida, United States | Straight Male | 3843 Posts | 4708 Points
( kidd rune )


Wealthy Hobo

Sustainer
Reply

why does it matter what race you are born as? if you were born as a black or asian person you wouldn't know any better. so stop it. it's a lost cause
What cause do you think I'm advocating?

I want Whites to exist.

-------
"If you worship your enemy, you are defeated.
If you adopt your enemy's religion you are enslaved.
If you breed with your enemy you are destroyed."
-Polydoros


5:34 pm on Nov. 6, 2008 | Joined Nov. 2007 | 135 Days Active
Join to learn more about kidd rune Florida, United States | Straight Male | 3843 Posts | 4708 Points
HeartofJuyoMk2


Connoisseur
Reply
Quote: from kidd rune at 8:33 pm on Nov. 6, 2008


ok, so?

Indigenous peoples and individuals have the right not to be subjected to forced assimilation or destruction of their culture.
and

Any action which has the aim or effect of depriving them of their  
integrity as distinct peoples, or of their cultural values or ethnic identities;

I, for one, believe all races and cultures have the right to exist. I think that none should die out.

I don't advocate genocide, even if it doesn't involve literal "shoot you in the face" murder.


it's not genocide. It's just cultural assimilation. It's not a problem. If you want to "preserve white culture" then just dont get down with another race. whatever.

-------
Scandalousx3- I love you baby!

5:35 pm on Nov. 6, 2008 | Joined Feb. 2008 | 195 Days Active
Join to learn more about HeartofJuyoMk2 New York, United States | Straight Male | 3837 Posts | 6315 Points
( kidd rune )


Wealthy Hobo

Sustainer
Reply

it's not genocide. It's just cultural assimilation. It's not a problem. If you want to "preserve white culture" then just dont get down with another race. whatever.
I want to preserve White culture, genetics, history, etc.

If Whites die out, most of their culture will go with them.

Genocide:
the deliberate and systematic extermination of a national, racial, political, or cultural group.

Break it into parts:
the deliberate
On purpose - this is by multiculuralism.

and systematic
Involving a system/plan. This is called integration and multiculturalism.

extermination of a national, racial, political, or cultural group.
exterminate - get rid of by destroying. If all Whites die out, they will be exterminated - destroyed by mixing and integration - even if it ISN'T 100% violence.

-------
"If you worship your enemy, you are defeated.
If you adopt your enemy's religion you are enslaved.
If you breed with your enemy you are destroyed."
-Polydoros


5:39 pm on Nov. 6, 2008 | Joined Nov. 2007 | 135 Days Active
Join to learn more about kidd rune Florida, United States | Straight Male | 3843 Posts | 4708 Points
Afu


Dairy Product Addict
Reply
wheres theres not much you can do, apperantly, so im guessing just have white children and so forth?

5:41 pm on Nov. 6, 2008 | Joined July 2008 | 112 Days Active
Join to learn more about Afu Florida, United States | Straight Male | 833 Posts | 2014 Points
( kidd rune )


Wealthy Hobo

Sustainer
Reply
Quote: from Afu at 8:41 pm on Nov. 6, 2008

wheres theres not much you can do, apperantly, so im guessing just have white children and so forth?
White have a RIGHT to be White.

We have a RIGHT to stay within ourselves.

This can be done with our own nation.


Many of you claim WN's and NS's are all racist haters that want you dead - wouldn't you rather them go to some other country and leave you alone than?

-------
"If you worship your enemy, you are defeated.
If you adopt your enemy's religion you are enslaved.
If you breed with your enemy you are destroyed."
-Polydoros


5:47 pm on Nov. 6, 2008 | Joined Nov. 2007 | 135 Days Active
Join to learn more about kidd rune Florida, United States | Straight Male | 3843 Posts | 4708 Points
Afu


Dairy Product Addict
Reply
Quote: from kidd rune at 5:39 pm on Nov. 6, 2008


it's not genocide. It's just cultural assimilation. It's not a problem. If you want to "preserve white culture" then just dont get down with another race. whatever.
I want to preserve White culture, genetics, history, etc.

If Whites die out, most of their culture will go with them.

Genocide:
the deliberate and systematic extermination of a national, racial, political, or cultural group.

Break it into parts:
the deliberate
On purpose - this is by multiculuralism.

and systematic
Involving a system/plan. This is called integration and multiculturalism.

extermination of a national, racial, political, or cultural group.
exterminate - get rid of by destroying. If all Whites die out, they will be exterminated - destroyed by mixing and integration - even if it ISN'T 100% violence.


Your placing all the blame on multicultralism, when it might be White Poeple themselves who are bringing an end to your race. You said it yurself,

On average a white woman now bears only about 1.4 children along her fertile span[/qoute]


Insted of blaming mulit- cultralism and intergration for the decline of a race, why dont you blame your fellow brothers and sisters for not wanting to preserve thier culture.

It seems like the rest of us arnt having a problem with that.


5:49 pm on Nov. 6, 2008 | Joined July 2008 | 112 Days Active
Join to learn more about Afu Florida, United States | Straight Male | 833 Posts | 2014 Points
( kidd rune )


Wealthy Hobo

Sustainer
Reply

Your placing all the blame on multicultralism, when it might be White Poeple themselves who are bringing an end to your race. You said it yurself,

Insted of blaming mulit- cultralism and intergration for the decline of a race, why dont you blame your fellow brothers and sisters for not wanting to preserve thier culture.

It seems like the rest of us arnt having a problem with that.


They're both factors.

Nevertheless, one or the other needs to be stopped for White rights.

The White population doesn't change when nonWhites aren't present in a nation - it stays at 100% (may lower in numbers, but that can be changed).

-------
"If you worship your enemy, you are defeated.
If you adopt your enemy's religion you are enslaved.
If you breed with your enemy you are destroyed."
-Polydoros


5:51 pm on Nov. 6, 2008 | Joined Nov. 2007 | 135 Days Active
Join to learn more about kidd rune Florida, United States | Straight Male | 3843 Posts | 4708 Points
Pages: 1 2 3  Next » Email Print Favorite

Quick Reply

You are signed in as our guest.

Looking for something else?
 

  LiveWire / Teen Forums / Race, Ethnicity & Nationality / Viewing Topic