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Oh? I thought you said there was a scientific way to define a race. Guess you changed your tune on that.

There is, I listed the subraces that fall under the category of Aryan. Is that good enough? As you know, there isn't ONE specific thing that makes you Aryan or not.

When ppl have fair skin and seem to be european origin I tend to think they white. But if they tell me they something else Im cool with it.

And?

They didn't migrate TO India. They migrated FROM India. Study up REAL history man not just those WN sites.

The Aryan migration theory claims that they migrated TO India FROM the Black/Caspian Sea region. That is not from WN sites either.

Who is "they" again? Those WN fucktards?

No, Anthropologists.

Here's an article from Newsday and San Francisco Chronicle in may 1999:

History of Ancient Indian Conquest Told in Modern Genes, Experts Say
Robert Cooke, Newsday
Like an indelible signature enduring through a hundred generations, genes that entered India when conquering hordes swooped down from the north thousands of years ago are still there, and remain entrenched at the top of the caste system, scientists report. Analyses of the male Y chromosome, plus genes hidden in small cellular bodies called mitochondria, show that today's genetic patterns agree with accounts of ancient Indo-European warriors' conquering the Indian subcontinent.
The invaders apparently shoved the local men aside, took their women and set up the rigid caste system that exists today. Their descendants are still the elite within Hindu society.
INVADING CAUCASOIDS
Thus today's genetic patterns, the researchers explained, vividly reflect a historic event, or events, that occurred 3,000 or 4,000 years ago. The gene patterns "are consistent with a historical scenario in which invading Caucasoids -- primarily males -- established the caste system and occupied the highest positions, placing the indigenous population, who were more similar to Asians, in lower caste positions."
The researchers, from the University of Utah and Andhra Pradesh University in India, used two sets of genes in their analyses.
One set, from the mitochondria, are only passed maternally and can be used to track female inheritance. The other, on the male-determining Y chromosome, can only be passed along paternally and thus track male inheritance.
The data imply, then, "that there was a group of males with European affinities who were largely responsible for this invasion 3,000 or 4,000 years ago," said geneticist Lynn Jorde of the University of Utah.

If women had accompanied the invaders, he said, the evidence should be seen in the mitochondrial genes, but it is not evident.
According to geneticist Douglas Wallace of Emory University in Atlanta, the work reported by Jorde and his colleagues ``is very interesting, and is certainly worth further study.''
Along with Jorde, the research team included Michael Bamshad, W.S. Watkins and M.E. Dixon from Utah and B.B. Rao, B.V.R. Prasad and J.M. Naidu, from Andhra Pradesh University.
UPWARDLY MOBILE WOMEN
By studying both sets of genetic markers, the research team found clear evidence echoing what is still seen socially, that women can be upwardly mobile, in terms of caste, if they marry higher-caste men. In contrast, men generally do not move higher, because women rarely marry men from lower castes, the researchers said.
"Our expectations in this natural experiment are borne out when we look at the genes," said Jorde. "It's one of the few cases where we know the mating situation in a population for 150 generations. So it's kind of a test for how well the genes reflect a population's history."
The ancient story holds that invaders known as Indo-Europeans, or true Aryans, came from Eastern Europe or western Asia and conquered the Indian subcontinent. The people they subdued descended from the original inhabitants who had arrived far earlier from Africa and from other parts of Asia.
During the genetic studies, in 1996 and 1997, researchers took blood samples from hundreds of people in southern India. The analyses compared the genes from 316 caste members and 330 members of tribal populations, looking for signs of Asian, European and African ancestry.
In the mitochondrial genes passed along by females, Jorde said, they could see the clear background of Asian genes. "All of the caste groups were similar to Asians, the underlying population" that had originally been subdued.
But, he added, "When we look at the Y chromosome DNA, we see a very different pattern. The lower castes are most similar to Asians, and the upper castes are more European than Asian."
Further, "when we look at the different components within the upper caste, the group with the greatest European similarity of all is the warrior class, the Kshatriya, who are still at the top of the Hindu castes, with the Brahmins," Jorde said.
"But the Brahmins, in terms of their Y chromosomes, are a little bit more Asian."
So the genetic results are "consistent with historical accounts that women sometimes marry into higher caste, resulting in female gene flow between adjacent castes. In contrast, males seldom change castes, so Y chromosome" variation occurs only as a result of natural mutations, Jorde said.
CASTE SYSTEM STILL ALIVE
He added that even though India's ancient caste system was abolished legally in the 1960s, it is still entrenched socially.
"People are very well aware of their caste membership," he said, noting that in some cities the housing is still arranged along caste lines. So "one might argue, unfortunately so, that it (the caste system) does exist in people's minds."
In terms of who marries whom, the researchers described the Hindu caste system as "governing the mating practices of nearly one-sixth of the world's population."
The blood samples taken from tribal people in southern India are still being analyzed, Jorde added.
But so far, "the tribal populations are more similar to the lower castes than to anyone else, similar to the original residents of India," he said.

So you admit they came FROM india?

Admit bullshit? Never. Outside Europe DOES NOT mean India, does it?

Why would they stop being Aryan if they mix with other population?

Because the other population isn't Aryan, like the natives of India.

How about the Aryans who migrated TO Europe? Did they stop being Aryans by mixing with the local Europeans?

There weren't many local Europeans... Much of Europe was uninhabited.

Should be easy, You seem to know how "negros" look like in real detail. You know how european Aryans look like right? So describe non European Aryans since you said they exist, Some pics would be good.

http://amorsite.110mb.com/index.htm

Er..no. That makes the Aryans who went there Europeans. The Aryans who went to Asia became Asian right?

European and Asian aren't races.
The Aryans that went to Asia, or East Asia as you're probably referring to, STAYED Aryan until mixing out. These people were called the Tocharians.

Tell me what their DNA is like and how it differs from non-aryans.

What do you mean tell you what their DNA is like? It's small... Complex... Codon-filled...

No I am implying and saying you are an idiot. There is no evidence or sounds basis to claim that ALL europeans came from India/iran or the black sea,

I never said all Europeans came from the Black Sea region...

Research by Robert Ballard and National Geographic Magazine has proven that the Black Sea basin was flooded from the Mediterranean around 5600 BC- and that this was the probable cause of the first great Indo-European(Aryan) movement.

They moved far and wide - to China, India, Afganista, Middle East, Europe, and many other places.

As I've linked you to many studies, all blue-eyed people (especially Europeans) can trace their lineage back to ONE person in the Black Sea region.

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