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We all evolved from Black people?
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jakelong


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Quote: from liv21 at 7:51 am on Oct. 7, 2008

Why do most people say no here? The first humans lived in Africa, and light skin was an adaptation when people migrated.
The first humans lived in Africa. That doesn't mean they looked like modern Africans.

We have no idea what skin color or what features they really had or if we can put them in a particular race the way we do it today.

Their skin may have been darker or lighter than Africans we do not know. Its true that light skin is an adaptation. But we do not know who the original africans are supposed to be like.

I mean if we believe in the theory then modern Africans as well as modern Europeans and modern Asians all derived from that original human.

But that DONT mean that some races are MORE evolved than others. The various race groups  are just more ADAPTED to the specific region/climate they went to and then stayed the same for a while because of breeding in the same group and isolation and little changes in the climate.

The  thing is today the climate is not the same as the ice age time anyway. And it doesn't matter as much because we developed technologies and houses that allow anybody to live anywhere he likes practically.

The only problem is if there is global warming. If that is true then the climate of every continent is gonna change from what it was before anyway so people who live there are not going to be always adapted to the new climate anyway.

So at this point the whole evolution/race connection is moot.

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kidd rune


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Just what I expected from you.
It's CALLED a simian shelf, and Negroes tend to have it...


Why do most people say no here?  The first humans lived in Africa, and light skin was an adaptation when people migrated.  
What's your point? That means nothing. Race is not skin.



So at this point the whole evolution/race connection is moot.
People tend to look at "Humans originated in Africa" and see "We're all Black!!!"

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jakelong


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Quote: from kidd rune at 3:00 pm on Oct. 7, 2008

It's CALLED a simian shelf, and Negroes tend to have it...
Its called bull shit and YOU have it.


People tend to look at "Humans originated in Africa" and see "We're all Black!!!"
We all share a common ancestor. We all share 99.8% of our DNA.  Got a problem with that?


Noah A. Rosenberg and Jonathan K Pritchard, geneticists formerly in the laboratory of Marcus W. Feldman of Stanford University, assayed approximately 375 polymorphisms called short tandem repeats in more than 1,000 people from 52 different groups in Africa, Asia, Europe and the Americas. By looking at varying frequencies of these polymorphisms, they were able to distinguish five different groups of people whose ancestors were typically isolated by oceans, deserts or mountains: sub-Saharan Africans; Europeans and Asians west of the Himalayas; East Asians; inhabitants of New Guinea and Melanesia; and Native Americans. They were also able to identify subgroups within each region that usually corresponded with each member's self-reported ethnicity. (Michael J. Bamshad and Steven E. Olson. Does Race Exist? Scientific American [November 10, 2003])


Approximately 93% of human genetic variation occurs between two people in the same race - 85% between two people of the same ethnic group and another 8% between ethnic groups within a race. That leaves only 7% of variation between the major human races.
(Lewontin, 1991)


All populations have people who are taller and shorter, fatter and thinner, braver and more timid, introverted and extroverted, more decisive and more dithering. There is no continent of uniformly brunette people to contrast with one of uniformly blond people, or of uniformly tall people to contrast with one of uniformly short people. The traits that differentiate Swedes and Kenyans at the racial level are actually a very small proportion of the differences detectable, which are distributed primarily among members of the same population and between populations on the same continent.
(Marks, 2003)

http://www.genomicseducation.ca/informationArticles/society/genomics_race.asp

There is MORE genetic VARIATION between ppl of the SAME race than ppl of different race that are built about the same.




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I think we evolved from a kind of prototype-esque kind of people who resemble the black people of today. Those people stayed in Africa, and certain genetic stuff I don't know too much about went on and voila.

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civilization started in Africa...the world changed and people went their seperate ways making them all start to be...ya know...different. So yea kinda....

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kidd rune


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Its called bull shit and YOU have it.
No... This is something EASILY viewable. I've seen it on Negroes, are you just blind?

The Negro skull is prognathous - it projects forward.

See?



We all share a common ancestor. We all share 99.8% of our DNA.  Got a problem with that?
Why would I have a problem with the truth? I know this and have told this - it DOESN'T disprove race.


There is MORE genetic VARIATION between ppl of the SAME race than ppl of different race that are built about the same.
I know...
http://golivewire.com/forums/peer-yyoysby-support-ta.html#75


civilization started in Africa...the world changed and people went their seperate ways making them all start to be...ya know...different. So yea kinda....
What do you define civilization as? I'm pretty sure most people consider Sumeria the first civilization. But, of course, tribes and settlements existed before that.

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jakelong


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Quote: from kidd rune at 6:05 pm on Oct. 8, 2008

No... This is something EASILY viewable. I've seen it on Negroes, are you just blind?
Nope I am just not as whacked in the head as you.

I bet I know many many more blacks than you. Many have the same skull features as whites. What you mention is used only to describe human species before homo homo sapiens.

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Quote: from jakelong at 11:57 pm on Oct. 8, 2008

I bet I know many many more blacks than you.

AHAHAHAHAHAHA!

That this is used as part of your argumentation just made me die laughing inside.

MY POST HAS THE MOST BLACK PEOPLE!  I WIN!

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Nope I am just not as whacked in the head as you.

I bet I know many many more blacks than you. Many have the same skull features as whites. What you mention is used only to describe human species before homo homo sapiens.


Look: You CAN'T judge this by the negroes you see. Since you're in California, I expect most Negroes you meet to have about 30% White ancestry, which is the US norm.

This is still how most Negroes are.

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Quote: from Prince o palities at 2:12 pm on Oct. 9, 2008

Quote: from jakelong at 11:57 pm on Oct. 8, 2008

I bet I know many many more blacks than you.

AHAHAHAHAHAHA!

That this is used as part of your argumentation just made me die laughing inside.


It wasn't meant as argumentation. You can't argue with stupid shit like


I've seen it on Negroes, are you just blind?

Since you here though tell me PoP, have YOU seen the simian shelf on negroes?  

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Quote: from kidd rune at 2:30 pm on Oct. 9, 2008

Look: You CAN'T judge this by the negroes you see.
So why CAN YOU judge it?

Anyway you asked me if I was BLIND. So I thought you wanted me to use MY eyes, not YOURS.


Since you're in California, I expect most Negroes you meet to have about 30% White ancestry, which is the US norm.
You saying YOUR negroes are different than MINE?


This is still how mostNegroes are.
You went to Africa? You personally analyzed their skull and jaws?

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Quote: from jakelong at 10:01 pm on Oct. 9, 2008

Quote: from Prince o palities at 2:12 pm on Oct. 9, 2008

Quote: from jakelong at 11:57 pm on Oct. 8, 2008

I bet I know many many more blacks than you.
 

 AHAHAHAHAHAHA!  

 That this is used as part of your argumentation just made me die laughing inside.


It wasn't meant as argumentation. You can't argue with stupid shit like


I've seen it on Negroes, are you just blind?

Since you here though tell me PoP, have YOU seen the simian shelf on negroes?


I don't know any black people.

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 Eh.....think you should get off LW for a while.


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Quote: from Jazzy Jeff at 10:28 am on Oct. 10, 2008

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  Eh.....think you should get off LW for a while.


Why?  Is there something magical about knowing black people?

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Quote: from Prince o palities at 3:40 pm on Oct. 10, 2008

Quote: from Jazzy Jeff at 10:28 am on Oct. 10, 2008

^  

  Eh.....think you should get off LW for a while.


Why? Is there something magical about knowing black people?


Go meet one and find out.

Do you believe in magic? In a negro's heart
How slave drivers can free it whenever it starts
And it's maaaagic, if the rap is groovy
It makes you feel happy like a Tyler Perry movie


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