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Abortion
Pro-Life or Pro-Choice?
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Quote: from bluedog at 6:55 pm on Aug. 10, 2008

If you get rid of it because you don't want to die, then your just being selfish.

What about those who already have children to worry about or other responsibilities in addition to the pregnancy?  A woman abandoning her children to spare her conscience seems pretty selfish to me.

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"I have a friend who got raped, she kept the kid."

That's great for her, she obviously was fine with having a child, a lot of people aren't and it isn't a case of "stupid sex knowing you could get pregnant". In the case of rape, the person didn't even consent to sex, let alone a kid. It's not their responsibility to breed something that was forced into their body.

"And as for someone who might die by giving birth to the kid, then I would die for my kid."

That's rather stupid, then your child has possibly no one  to raise it, if you happen to be a single parent. And before you start spouting off that that wouldn't happen, there's always a chance and that chance is about 60% that the father of your child will run away when you're young.

And for those women who have other priorities such as other children or loved ones, simply throwing your life away isn't an option.

"I would have it. If you get rid of it because you don't want to die, then your just being selfish"

Yes, self-preservation is so evil. Those cancer people who get treatment just because they don't want to die are so evil and selfish! Those cancer cells are alive too! And so are people with HIV who get treatment! HIV is a living cell organism!!! Anyone who does anything because they want to live is quite stupid and selfish!!!  

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Quote: from bluedog at 3:55 pm on Aug. 10, 2008

Well for me I'm pro life now, I had an abortion, and have regretted it everyday since.

So because you made the wrong decision everyone else should suffer? Just because it wasn't right for you doesn't mean it will be the same for everyone else.

Die for it? ... Are you stupid ?! ... Its not selfish to not want to die for the thing. And the babys life is worth more than the mothers?! How Pro-life of you.  

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they have a saying in our culture, that god put the vagina between the legs for a reason. because it is unreachable. a woman can close her legs or open them. and i say if u open them its your responsibility. and if u get raped its probably because you tempted him.

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Quote: from AshritaPk0791 at 11:04 am on Aug. 11, 2008

they have a saying in our culture, that god put the vagina between the legs for a reason. because it is unreachable. a woman can close her legs or open them. and i say if u open them its your responsibility. and if u get raped its probably because you tempted him.

That's offensive on so many levels.

Honestly, I don't even know where to start.

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alot of things u say are offensive to me. thats just my personal opinion. remember we have to right to make our own choices. if u dont like it too bad.

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Quote: from AshritaPk0791 at 8:04 am on Aug. 11, 2008

they have a saying in our culture, that god put the vagina between the legs for a reason. because it is unreachable. a woman can close her legs or open them. and i say if u open them its your responsibility. and if u get raped its probably because you tempted him.

Wow. Youre like one of the biggest idiots on livewire. Congratulations!

Rape has nothing to do with the girl, its all about the guy. The girls usually think its their fault and thats cause of idiots like you. Its all the guys fault. (That goes both ways of course. Girls can rape guys too.)

Its irresponsible to put a baby up for adoption because it's taking the home away from another homeless child, and its very irresponsible to keep a baby you can't take care of for obivous reasons. The best you can do is have an abortion.

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Quote: from AshritaPk0791 at 11:04 am on Aug. 11, 2008

and if u get raped its probably because you tempted him.

Little problem with this (aside from blatant stupidity)...

Rape isn't typically about sex.  It's about power and control.  Rapists normally look the women they can most easily overpower, not those who "tempt" them.  

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its funny because American has about the highest rape and pre marital sex rate in the world as where in other countries women cover their bodies conservatively and those countries have about 1 percent a little more less lets say.

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Quote: from AshritaPk0791 at 8:04 am on Aug. 11, 2008

they have a saying in our culture, that god put the vagina between the legs for a reason. because it is unreachable. a woman can close her legs or open them. and i say if u open them its your responsibility. and if u get raped its probably because you tempted him.
LMAO, one of the stupidest statements I've ever read. Congratulations.

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Quote: from AshritaPk0791 at 6:22 pm on Aug. 11, 2008

its funny because American has about the highest rape and pre marital sex rate in the world as where in other countries women cover their bodies conservatively and those countries have about 1 percent a little more less lets say.
Actually, it doesn't have the highest reported rape rate. South Africa does.

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Quote: from AshritaPk0791 at 9:22 pm on Aug. 11, 2008

its funny because American has about the highest rape and pre marital sex rate in the world as where in other countries women cover their bodies conservatively and those countries have about 1 percent a little more less lets say.

And I'm sure that has nothing to do with the intense shame attached to being a rape victim (resulting in few victims coming forward), and the fact that in certain countries it is difficult to prosecute rapists.

Up until a couple years ago, in order for a rapist to be prosecuted in Pakistan, there had to be 4 male witnesses.  If some guy raped a woman without witnesses, he would be free, whereas she could face adultery charges (in which case, she could be stoned to death).  Do you really think rape statistics there are accurate?

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Quote: from AshritaPk0791 at 6:22 pm on Aug. 11, 2008

its funny because American has about the highest rape and pre marital sex rate in the world as where in other countries women cover their bodies conservatively and those countries have about 1 percent a little more less lets say.
Actually, it doesn't have the highest reported rape rate. South Africa does.

i said about. which means almost read first

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Quote: from AshritaPk0791 at 11:11 am on Aug. 11, 2008

alot of things u say are offensive to me. thats just my personal opinion. remember we have to right to make our own choices. if u dont like it too bad.
You fucking retard!
People DO have the right to make their own choices...which is why abortion should be legal...people have the right to choose when they want to have children. And if I remember correctly, the definition of "rape" is: "Rape is a form of assault where one individual forces another to have sexual intercourse against that person's will. It may be defined as forcing a person to submit to any sex act, and is generally considered one of the most serious sex crimes"
It is NEVER the victim's fault! And if and when you get raped, I'm SURE you'll be singing a different tune, you cunt!

and you are one of The dumbest fucks I have ever met on LW, so congratulations, 'cause you've broken the record for a new level of stupidity.

If you don't like abortion, don't have one, but don't you dare be arrogant enough to assume that you can control everybody else!

So just STFU, 'cause you don't know shit about anything.

So if you don't like abortion, too bad, it's their choice.

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Quote: from AshritaPk0791 at 9:00 pm on Aug. 11, 2008

Quote: from iinsurgent at 6:35 pm on Aug. 11, 2008

Quote: from AshritaPk0791 at 6:22 pm on Aug. 11, 2008

its funny because American has about the highest rape and pre marital sex rate in the world as where in other countries women cover their bodies conservatively and those countries have about 1 percent a little more less lets say.
Actually, it doesn't have the highest reported rape rate. South Africa does.

i said about. which means almost read first

It's not even close, with eight other countries coming before it.

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