He explained himself very well, talking about the plans for this country and how they are realistic. He took the high horse and was able to recognize McCain's (mere)
"accomplishments" yet he followed up with great reasons not to vote for McCain. However, he didn't solely focus on McCain's downfalls but plenty of his own strengths.

This is the opposite of McCain's method, which is solely bashing Obama, neglecting to enforce his own strengths. Great job, OWG!

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"In a world we need to share;
it's not enough to stand and stare." --Pink Floyd

and even if he wanted to do these changes, they don't solve the underlying problems.  i dont care for mccain either, obama is slightly better in my opinion, but both are lameeeee

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Quote from barnabas at 1:00 am on Dec. 4, 2008
doommaker was a very helpful member,
until he went crazy,
and we were left with you.

It is truly impossible for us to tell whether or not Obama or McCain will follow through with what they say. However, that is where faith needs to come in. For example, I have 0 faith in McCain, but a LOT of faith in Obama. That's my own personal choice. Whether or not Obama will actually follow through with his plans is unknown but I personally believe that he will.

Also, Obama recognizes the underlying problems. He understands that for the past 8 years, this country has undergone a hell of lot of destruction. He knows that it won't be simple to just pick up the pieces and quickly mend thing; he realizes that it will be a long process that he will begin. Sure, he might not be able to work absolute miracles, but he can start us on a path to a better country.

Countries cannot be mended in four years. Obama knows that. All intelligent people realize that. But all intelligent people also realize that mending a country has to begin SOMEWHERE - and that's a beginning that McCain is not willing to work on.

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"In a world we need to share;
it's not enough to stand and stare." --Pink Floyd

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We'll see, I guess. The thing about elections is that you need to have some sort of faith in the candidates.  

It is truly impossible for us to tell whether or not Obama or McCain will follow through with what they say. However, that is where faith needs to come in. For example, I have 0 faith in McCain, but a LOT of faith in Obama. That's my own personal choice. Whether or not Obama will actually follow through with his plans is unknown but I personally believe that he will.  

Also, Obama recognizes the underlying problems. He understands that for the past 8 years, this country has undergone a hell of lot of destruction. He knows that it won't be simple to just pick up the pieces and quickly mend thing; he realizes that it will be a long process that he will begin. Sure, he might not be able to work absolute miracles, but he can start us on a path to a better country.  

Countries cannot be mended in four years. Obama knows that. All intelligent people realize that. But all intelligent people also realize that mending a country has to begin SOMEWHERE - and that's a beginning that McCain is not willing to work on.

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and its more than just the past administration, the past administration has made this country a worse place, but the very flaws in our government, society, media, foreign policy, etc. nobody has the guts to recognize that shit let alone stand up to us

id say when the system is broken really badly, you cant really start a 'path' to change, you need to radically alter the whole landscape

i cant only blame obama for this nearly though, its the whole political climate

Post edited at 11:16 am on Aug. 29, 2008 by prisoner of hss

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Quote from barnabas at 1:00 am on Dec. 4, 2008
doommaker was a very helpful member,
until he went crazy,
and we were left with you.

He's a phenomenal speaker. Compared to George W. Bush, he's...I don't even know. Words cannot describe. Whereas Obama is articulate, intelligent, etc. George Bush can't even say one simple sentence without severely fucking up.

It's very inspiring to listen to our future president. :)

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"In a world we need to share;
it's not enough to stand and stare." --Pink Floyd

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i dont see why anyone would have 'faith' in obama. he's changed his stances a bit and played the role of a politician, therefore i dont see any reason why anyone should have faith in him

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That makes me support him more, not less. I'm not sure that I would ever user the word "faith" when describing a political endorsement, but Obama appears to have a nice combination of genuine good intentions and not being a little bitch.

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