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After reading the thread, it seems like Another Chance lives in one of those all white paradises where they never have to actually see minorities while most of the rest of us live in the real world.

Especially with regards to blacks, they only constitute 12% of the population, thus it is no wonder that most people have never really seen many of them or ever lived in areas where there were significant concentrations.

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lmao

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After reading the thread, it seems like Another Chance lives in one of those all white paradises where they never have to actually see minorities while most of the rest of us live in the real world.

Especially with regards to blacks, they only constitute 12% of the population, thus it is no wonder that most people have never really seen many of them or ever lived in areas where there were significant concentrations.

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I do like how you chose to say "all white paradises".

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Hmm, do you have said articles to read??? And what did you find was the answer to that question?

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Eh, not on hand as the articles I wrote were from years ago and they generally weren't my best (I could try digging one up, though), but the conclusion is pretty simple: most racism by minorities is the result of real or perceived racism against them.  So naturally, it's reactive, meaning it's reverse racism.  This does not apply to every single person mind you, but it does show a broad trend.  It's not unreasonable to think that the resentment people felt from being discriminated against (or imagining their ancestors being discriminated against) would fuel prejudice against whites today.

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After reading the thread, it seems like Another Chance lives in one of those all white paradises where they never have to actually see minorities while most of the rest of us live in the real world.

Especially with regards to blacks, they only constitute 12% of the population, thus it is no wonder that most people have never really seen many of them or ever lived in areas where there were significant concentrations.

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Quote: from whoisabs at 1:11 am on June 27, 2008

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After reading the thread, it seems like Another Chance lives in one of those all white paradises where they never have to actually see minorities while most of the rest of us live in the real world.  

 Especially with regards to blacks, they only constitute 12% of the population, thus it is no wonder that most people have never really seen many of them or ever lived in areas where there were significant concentrations.

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Uhhh, there are minorities pretty much everywhere.

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Ya what population is he referring to.

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I have a very hard time believing that you've been all over the south, and didn't run into racists.

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Where did I say I didn't run into racists?  I've certainly known a fair few of whites who truly believed that blacks were inferior (though I've never seen these people act upon it).  I'm just saying that if you go spend time in places like Birmingham, Knoxville, Charlotte, Charleston, Savannah, Pensacola, etc., you'll find that the attitudes against racism isn't all that different.  Most people will agree that racism is bad.

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To be honest I think you're lying, or spent very very little time there.

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Lol, my grandparents live in Huntsville, Alabama.  I go spend quite a bit of time there every other summer.  But you don't have to take everything I say at face value.  You're free to believe what you wish.

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I spent little time in the south, and I witnessed some racism against minorities. I've never lived in the south, and I have no intentions of ever doing so.

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Perhaps it depends on where you go.  As I said, the blacks and whites in the South are much more segregated (a de facto segregation as I said) than you'd find in places such as the west coast.  As a result, I didn't come into very much contact with any minority down in the South, so that's a bias there I'm willing to admit, though from what I have asked many people I've ran into down there, it doesn't indicate that the South is as racist as so many people like to pretend.

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Quote: from whoisabs at 1:11 am on June 27, 2008

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After reading the thread, it seems like Another Chance lives in one of those all white paradises where they never have to actually see minorities while most of the rest of us live in the real world.  

 Especially with regards to blacks, they only constitute 12% of the population, thus it is no wonder that most people have never really seen many of them or ever lived in areas where there were significant concentrations.

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Uhhh, there are minorities pretty much everywhere.

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Oh really?

Whenever I'd go up north to see family, there weren't 'minorities' involved, though blacks have finally started to move into my grandma's neighborhood up in Scranton in the past 5 years.

In the vast majority of the USA blacks constitute less than 5% of the population, and the thought that blacks constitute any significant concentrations in most of those places where they are 5% or less is just hillarious.

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Eh, not on hand as the articles I wrote were from years ago and they generally weren't my best (I could try digging one up, though), but the conclusion is pretty simple: most racism by minorities is the result of real or perceived racism against them.  So naturally, it's reactive, meaning it's reverse racism.  This does not apply to every single person mind you, but it does show a broad trend.  It's not unreasonable to think that the resentment people felt from being discriminated against (or imagining their ancestors being discriminated against) would fuel prejudice against whites today.

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Ahh, ok. I guess what just gets me is that you're focusing on this type of discrimination/racism...

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As opposed to outright discrimination?  It's because I believe that most racism perpetrated by minorities is a reaction to racism from whites, whether in the present or past.  Hence the focus on reverse discrimination, and when I think about why this racism isn't so focused upon (because many minorities do openly flaunt it if you actually talk to some of them and listen), I believe that it just isn't focused on as much as I believe it should.  You're free to disagree with me on that, but unlike what some others in this thread have been trying to do, don't think that I am not sincere to racism that minorities face today whites.  It's a cycle of hate and if you want to stop it, you must focus on every aspect of it, not just a single part.

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Quote: from emmy350 at 2:09 am on June 27, 2008

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Hmm, do you have said articles to read??? And what did you find was the answer to that question?

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Eh, not on hand as the articles I wrote were from years ago and they generally weren't my best (I could try digging one up, though), but the conclusion is pretty simple: most racism by minorities is the result of real or perceived racism against them. So naturally, it's reactive, meaning it's reverse racism. This does not apply to every single person mind you, but it does show a broad trend. It's not unreasonable to think that the resentment people felt from being discriminated against (or imagining their ancestors being discriminated against) would fuel prejudice against whites today.

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Lets see one of your English class essays?

I've probably lost the point cause it's late.  But yes, reverse discrimination can be a problem, but it's not bigger than plain old discrimination. Whites do most of the discriminating anyway.

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As opposed to outright discrimination? It's because I believe that most racism perpetrated by minorities is a reaction to racism from whites, whether in the present or past.

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This is true. And obvious.

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As opposed to outright discrimination?  It's because I believe that most racism perpetrated by minorities is a reaction to racism from whites, whether in the present or past.  Hence the focus on reverse discrimination, and when I think about why this racism isn't so focused upon (because many minorities do openly flaunt it if you actually talk to some of them and listen), I believe that it just isn't focused on as much as I believe it should.  You're free to disagree with me on that, but unlike what some others in this thread have been trying to do, don't think that I am not sincere to racism that minorities face today whites.  It's a cycle of hate and if you want to stop it, you must focus on every aspect of it, not just a single part.

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Maybe if these idiots got out of their little areas with 5% or less blacks, then they migth actually acknowledge that minorities can be racist.

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LOL... of course minorities can be racist. Like bud said, it's only a reaction to what started it.

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Just like you said, focus on every aspect, not just one.

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And what makes you think I don't give any attention to other reasons for discrimination?  I have made other topics about the nature of racism in general, such as this one, where I talked about how stereotypes =/= prejudice, but how they aren't totally unrelated from each other either.

I can only focus on so many things at a time, you know.